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1. Elizabeth Cartwright was born about 1798.
Elizabeth married Richard Palmer 30th Oct 1820 in St Thomas Dudley. Richard was born about 1798.
The child from this marriage was:
+ 2 M i. John Palmer was born in 1821 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and was christened 18th Feb 1821 in St Michaels Brierley Hill.
2. John Palmer was born in 1821 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and was christened 18th Feb 1821 in St Michaels Brierley Hill.
John married Emma Morgan 20th August 1849 in St Marys Kingswinford. Emma was born about 1823 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and was christened 9 November 1923 in St Marys Kingswinford.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 3 F i. Eliza Palmer was born in 1850.
4 F ii. Ann M Palmer was born in 1853 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
+ 5 M iii. Benjamin Palmer was born in 1857 in Dudley.
+ 6 M iv. George Palmer was born in June 1859 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and died in December 1892 at age 33.
7 F v. Emily Palmer was born about 1863 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
+ 8 F vi. Sarah (Jane) Palmer was born about 1866 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
+ 9 F vii. Ann E Palmer was born about 1870 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
3. Eliza Palmer was born in 1850.
Eliza married Alfred Hobson in June 1871 in Stourbridge. Alfred was born <1850> in Brierley Hill.
Children from this marriage were:
10 M i. Walter Hobson was born <1872> in Pendleton Lancashire.
11 F ii. Sarah Hobson was born <1873> in Pendleton Lancashire.
+ 12 F iii. Edith Hobson was born <1876> in Pendleton Lancashire.
13 M iv. Alfred Hobson was born <1878> in Pendleton Lancashire.
14 M v. John Hobson was born <1882> in Pendleton Lancashire.
15 F vi. Louise Hobson was born <1882> in Pendleton Lancashire.
16 F vii. Eliza Hobson was born <1884> in Pendleton Lancashire.
17 F viii. Emily Hobson was born <1887> in Pendleton Lancashire.
18 M ix. Florence Hobson was born <1890> in Pendleton Lancashire.
5. Benjamin Palmer was born in 1857 in Dudley.
Benjamin married Eliza Pegg in September 1879 in Dudley. Eliza was born in June 1857 in Dudley and died in December 1893 in Stourbridge at age 36.
Children from this marriage were:
19 F i. Ann E Palmer was born in 1878 in Stourbridge and died in December 1883 in Stourbridge at age 5.
+ 20 M ii. John Palmer was born 29th Oct 1879 in Mill Street Brierley Hill and died 23rd Dec 1950 in 22 Norwood Road Brierley Hill Staffordshire at age 71.
21 M iii. Edward Palmer was born in December 1880 in Stourbridge.
22 M iv. Thomas Palmer was born in 1884 in Brierley Hill.
23 F v. Sarah Palmer was born in 1886.
24 F vi. Mary Palmer was born in 1888.
25 F vii. Ann Maria Palmer was born in 1890.
26 M viii. George Palmer was born in 1893.
Benjamin next married Emma Wellings in December 1895. Emma was born in 1856.
6. George Palmer was born in June 1859 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and died in December 1892 at age 33.
George married Elizabeth Morgan 25th Dec 1882 in Dudley Parish Church. Elizabeth was born in June 1865 in Brockmoor Staffordshire.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 27 F i. Edith Maria Palmer was born in 1883 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and died 1 April 1967 in Wordsley At 28 Whitehorn Road at age 84.
28 F ii. Florence Palmer was born in 1891 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
29 M iii. George Harry Palmer was born in 1889 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
30 F iv. Maria Palmer was born in 1886 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
8. Sarah (Jane) Palmer was born about 1866 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
Sarah married John Deeley in September 1890 in Kingswinford. John was born about 1864 in Quarry Bank.
The child from this marriage was:
31 F i. Mary Ann Deeley was born in March 1891 in Mill Street Brierley Hill.
9. Ann E Palmer was born about 1870 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill.
Ann married George Jones in June 1890 in Stourbridge. George was born about 1867 in Buck Pool Kingswinford.
Children from this marriage were:
32 F i. Charlotte Jones was born in March 1891 in Mill Street Brierley Hill and died in June 1891 in Dudley.
33 F ii. Gertrude Jones was born about 1894 in Brierley Hill.
12. Edith Hobson was born <1876> in Pendleton Lancashire.
Edith married Living
The child from this marriage was:
+ 34 M i. Living
20. John Palmer was born 29th Oct 1879 in Mill Street Brierley Hill and died 23rd Dec 1950 in 22 Norwood Road Brierley Hill Staffordshire at age 71.
John married Elizabeth Pearson 22nd Oct 1905 in St Michaels Brierley Hill. Elizabeth was born 8th July1882 in Maughan Street Quarry Bank and died 11th Apr 1925 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill at age 42.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 35 F i. Alice Mary Palmer was born 7th Jan 1906 in 4 Parkes Street, Brierley Hill and died 16th Sept 1995 in Hollybush House Nursing Home, Corbett Hospital at age 89.
+ 36 M ii. Benjamin Palmer was born 25th Nov 1907 in 1 House 5 Court Parkes Street, Brierley Hill, died 31 March 1979 in 8 Cherry Tree Road Huntington at age 71, and was buried in Cannock.
+ 37 M iii. George Palmer was born 21st March 1910 in 1 House 5 Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 23 April 1977 in Burton Road Hospital Dudley at age 67, and was buried in April 1977 in St Andrews Netherton.
+ 38 F iv. Emma Palmer was born 14 June 1912 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 29 November 1987 in Corbett Hospital Amblecote at age 75, and was buried in St Michaels, Brierley Hill.
39 M v. John William Palmer was born 16th Dec 1916 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street, Brierley Hill and died 8th May 1979 in Wordsley Hospital at age 62. Another name for John was Jack.
John married Elizabeth Footman 27th May 1939 in St Michaels Brierley Hill. Elizabeth was born 21 June 1917 in 43 Parkes Street, Brierley Hill and died 9th July 1940 in 53 Fenton Street, Brierley Hill at age 23. Another name for Elizabeth was Known as Lizzie.
Marriage Notes: Jack was living at home with his dad at 22 Norwood Road (changed from Foster Street) and Elizabeth at 5 Adelaide Street Brierley Hill
John next married Gladys Fletcher 14th April 1951 in St Michaels, Brierley Hill. Gladys was born 13 June 1911 in 52 Dudley Street, Brierley Hill, died 4 July 1977 in Brierley Hill Staffordshire at age 66, and was buried in Lower Gornal Crem.
John next married Myra Beatrice Swingewood (Adams) 27th April 1940 in Stourbridge Registry Office. Myra was born 18th Dec 1887 in Brierley Hill Brettell Lane and died 8th Feb 1961 in 24 Norwood Road, Brierley Hill at age 73. Other names for Myra were Granny Beat, and Myra Beatrice Adams.
27. Edith Maria Palmer was born in 1883 in Staffordshire Brierley Hill and died 1 April 1967 in Wordsley At 28 Whitehorn Road at age 84.
Edith married Samuel Williams 18 May 1902 in St Michaels, Brierley Hill. Samuel was born in 1883 in Brierley Hill, died 4th Feb 1953 in 17 Waldron Ave, Brierley Hill at age 70, and was buried in Brierley Hill.
Marriage Notes: Winessed by Francis Holiday & Eliza Ford (both to be confirmed poor writing visibility on certificate) Children from this marriage were:
+ 41 M ii. Horace Williams .
+ 42 F iii. Edith Williams was born 3 September 1903.
+ 43 F iv. Living
+ 44 M v. Richard (U) Williams was born 21 December 1907 in Brierley Hill Staffordshire and died in 1968 in Brierley Hill Staffordshire at age 61.
+ 45 M vi. Samuel Williams was born 20 November 1911, died 16th June 1985 in Dudley Holly Hall / Woodside at age 73, and was buried in Dudley Cemetery (Queens Cross).
46 M vii. George Thomas Williams was born 14th May 1915 in 54 New Street, Brierley Hill, died 23 October 2000 in 5 Fisher Street, Brierley Hill at age 85, and was buried in St Michaels, Brierley Hill.
George married Emma Palmer, daughter of John Palmer and Elizabeth Pearson, 15th June 1935 in Parish Church Of Brierley Hill. St Michaels. Emma was born 14 June 1912 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 29 November 1987 in Corbett Hospital Amblecote at age 75, and was buried in St Michaels, Brierley Hill. Another name for Emma was Em or Emmie.
Marriage Notes: George was living at 17 Waldron Ave at the time of their marriage, Emma was at 1 House Court H Parkes Street.
+ 47 M viii. Living
+ 48 F ix. Living
49 F x. Living
Living married.
The child from this marriage was:
35. Alice Mary Palmer was born 7th Jan 1906 in 4 Parkes Street, Brierley Hill and died 16th Sept 1995 in Hollybush House Nursing Home, Corbett Hospital at age 89.
Alice married Harry Walter Wharton 23rd March 1929 in Stourbridge Register Office. Harry was born 16th Jan 1909 in Lye At 147 Stourbridge Road and died 10th Jan 1991 at age 81.
Children from this marriage were:
52 F i. Joyce Wharton was born 27th June 1929 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street, Brierley Hill and died @ 1990 at age 61.
Joyce married Jack Bridge.
+ 53 M ii. Living
36. Benjamin Palmer was born 25th Nov 1907 in 1 House 5 Court Parkes Street, Brierley Hill, died 31 March 1979 in 8 Cherry Tree Road Huntington at age 71, and was buried in Cannock.
Benjamin married Georgina May Allport 6th Dec 1925 in Stourbridge Register Office. Georgina was born 28 May 1902 in Walsall At 3 Court Butt Lane. Another name for Georgina was Jean.
Marriage Notes: Marraige witnessed by Children from this marriage were:
+ 54 F i. Living
+ 55 M ii. Living
+ 57 F iv. Living
+ 58 M v. Living
37. George Palmer was born 21st March 1910 in 1 House 5 Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 23 April 1977 in Burton Road Hospital Dudley at age 67, and was buried in April 1977 in St Andrews Netherton.
George married Minnie Ward, daughter of Albert Ward and Julia Jones, 28th Sept 1929 in Registry Office Dudley. Minnie was born 30 September 1908 in 14 Pedmore Road Woodside, died 30 April 1984 in Prestwood Nursing Home Kiver at age 75, and was buried in May 1984 in St Andrew Netherton.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 59 F i. Alice Mary-May Palmer was born 4th Jan 1930 in Woodside Dudley At 205 Pedmore Road and died 4th August 2003 in Russells Hall Hospital at age 73.
+ 60 M ii. Living
+ 61 F iii. Living
+ 62 F iv. Julia Winifred Palmer was born 27th Jan 1940 in Woodside Dudley At 40 Bradford Road, died 12th May 1990 in North Staffordshire Royal Infirmary Harsthill at age 50, and was buried in Powke Lane Crematory.
+ 63 F v. Living
38. Emma Palmer was born 14 June 1912 in 1 House H Court Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 29 November 1987 in Corbett Hospital Amblecote at age 75, and was buried in St Michaels, Brierley Hill. Another name for Emma was Em or Emmie.
Emma married George Thomas Williams, son of Samuel Williams and Edith Maria Palmer, 15th June 1935 in Parish Church Of Brierley Hill. St Michaels. George was born 14th May 1915 in 54 New Street, Brierley Hill, died 23 October 2000 in 5 Fisher Street, Brierley Hill at age 85, and was buried in St Michaels, Brierley Hill.
Marriage Notes: George was living at 17 Waldron Ave at the time of their marriage, Emma was at 1 House Court H Parkes Street.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 64 F i. Doreen Elizabeth Williams was born 3rd Sept 1935 in H Court 1 Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 30th Nov 2000 in Russells Hall Hospital at age 65, and was buried in Lower Gornal Crem.
65 M ii. Living
+ 66 M iii. Living
+ 67 F iv. Brenda Patricia Williams was born 1st Jan 1942 in 22 Norwood Road, Brierley Hill and died 2nd April 1988 in Gwern Cilian Betsy-Yn-Rhos, Abergele at age 46.
+ 68 M v. Living
Horace married Living
Children from this marriage were:
70 F i. Living
42. Edith Williams was born 3 September 1903.
Edith married Living
The child from this marriage was:
Living married Living
Children from this marriage were:
+ 73 M i. Living
44. Richard (U) Williams was born 21 December 1907 in Brierley Hill Staffordshire and died in 1968 in Brierley Hill Staffordshire at age 61.
Richard married Clara Olive Attwood 8 June 1930 in Stourbridge Registrar. Clara was born 6th July 1910 and died 27th Nov 1991 at age 81.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 75 M i. Living
+ 76 F ii. Living
+ 77 F iii. Living
45. Samuel Williams was born 20 November 1911, died 16th June 1985 in Dudley Holly Hall / Woodside at age 73, and was buried in Dudley Cemetery (Queens Cross).
Samuel married Nora Eileen Dabbs. Nora was born in 1913, died 20th Feb 2001 at age 88, and was buried dudley Cemetery.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 79 F ii. Living
80 M iii. Samuel Williams was born in 1945, died 28th Dec 1981 at age 36, and was buried dudley Cemetery.
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Children from this marriage were:
+ 81 F i. Living
82 F ii. Living
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+ 84 F i. Living
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85 F i. Living
+ 86 F ii. Living
Living married Louis Attwood. Louis was born in 1923 and died in 1992 at age 69.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 88 F ii. Living
+ 89 M iii. Living
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Children from this marriage were:
90 M i. Living
91 M ii. Living
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93 M i. Living
94 F ii. Living
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Children from this marriage were:
+ 96 F i. Living
+ 97 F ii. Living
+ 98 F iii. Living
+ 99 M iv. Living
59. Alice Mary-May Palmer was born 4th Jan 1930 in Woodside Dudley At 205 Pedmore Road and died 4th August 2003 in Russells Hall Hospital at age 73.
Alice married Edward Cyril John 26 March 1949 in Holly Hall St Augustines. Edward was born 11th Nov 1925 and died 8th Dec 1991 at age 66. Another name for Edward was Known as Cyril.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 100 F i. Living
+ 101 F ii. Living
+ 102 M iii. Living
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Children from this marriage were:
+ 104 F ii. Living
+ 105 F iii. Living
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Children from this marriage were:
+ 106 M i. Living
107 M ii. Kelvin Williams was born 10th Jan 1961 in Portsmouth. St Marys Hospital and died 10th Jan 1961 in Portsmouth. St Marys Hospital.
+ 108 F iii. Living
+ 109 F iv. Living
62. Julia Winifred Palmer was born 27th Jan 1940 in Woodside Dudley At 40 Bradford Road, died 12th May 1990 in North Staffordshire Royal Infirmary Harsthill at age 50, and was buried in Powke Lane Crematory. Another name for Julia was Winnie.
Julia married Living
Children from this marriage were:
+ 111 M ii. Living
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Children from this marriage were:
112 M i. Living
64. Doreen Elizabeth Williams was born 3rd Sept 1935 in H Court 1 Parkes Street Brierley Hill, died 30th Nov 2000 in Russells Hall Hospital at age 65, and was buried in Lower Gornal Crem. Another name for Doreen was ,she was allways Known as Dot.
Doreen married Anthony John Skidmore 23 March 1957 in St Michaels, Brierley Hill. Anthony was born 5 December 1935 in Quarry Bank "Molten"Thorns Road and was buried in Lower Gornal Crem.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 114 M i. Living
115 F ii. Jayne Rosemary Skidmore was born 24 September 1960, died 13 April 2003 at age 42, and was buried in Lower Gornal Crem.
Living married Living
Children from this marriage were:
+ 116 F i. Living
+ 117 M ii. Living
118 F iii. Living
67. Brenda Patricia Williams was born 1st Jan 1942 in 22 Norwood Road, Brierley Hill and died 2nd April 1988 in Gwern Cilian Betsy-Yn-Rhos, Abergele at age 46.
Brenda married Living
Children from this marriage were:
120 M i. Living
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+ 122 M i. Living
+ 123 F ii. Living
+ 124 F iii. Living
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126 F i. Living
Living married Ronald Edwards. Ronald was born 21st Aug ? and died in May 1969.
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+ 128 M i. Living
+ 129 F ii. Living
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+ 131 F ii. Living
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136 F ii. Living
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166 F iii. Living
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170 F i. Tara Campbell was born in April 1984 and died in April 1984.
171 M ii. Living
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188 F ii. Living
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The Palmer Line
First Generation
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Second Generation ![]()
Third Generation ![]()
Fourth Generation ![]()
Fathers listed as Richard Williams a Messenger
& George Palmer a Miner (deceased)
Curate J Wilson Steele
Fifth Generation ![]()
George & Edith Allport
Fathers noted as John a general Labourer
& William James Allport a loader at the Coal Mine
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Eighth Generation